Comments on: Problems With BRT: Part 4 of…Many http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/12/21/problems-with-brt-part-4-of%e2%80%a6many/ Biking in the Bay Tue, 22 May 2012 13:39:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Peter Smith http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/12/21/problems-with-brt-part-4-of%e2%80%a6many/#comment-2739 Peter Smith Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:20:03 +0000 http://bikeblogs.org/sf/?p=727#comment-2739 I grew up in Jersey - we got a decent amount of snow. Since then I've spent a good amount of time in snowy climates, including Detroit, Grand Rapids, and Chicago. But you may be right in that buses may not help to create black ice - either at all, or more or less than other motorized transport, etc. I am rabidly opposed to BRT because it's a sham - it's not real transit. I am rabidly opposed to buses because they are not quality transit, but also because they are very scary to not just myself, but to pedestrians and cyclists in general. BRT is giving buses a new lease on life, unfortunately, but i'm hoping we can still see them go the way of the dodo. Cheers! I grew up in Jersey - we got a decent amount of snow. Since then I’ve spent a good amount of time in snowy climates, including Detroit, Grand Rapids, and Chicago. But you may be right in that buses may not help to create black ice - either at all, or more or less than other motorized transport, etc.

I am rabidly opposed to BRT because it’s a sham - it’s not real transit.

I am rabidly opposed to buses because they are not quality transit, but also because they are very scary to not just myself, but to pedestrians and cyclists in general.

BRT is giving buses a new lease on life, unfortunately, but i’m hoping we can still see them go the way of the dodo.

Cheers!

]]> By: Doug http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/12/21/problems-with-brt-part-4-of%e2%80%a6many/#comment-2738 Doug Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:48:21 +0000 http://bikeblogs.org/sf/?p=727#comment-2738 I'm guessing that living in SF doesn't give you much experience with snow. Buses don't make "black ice" any more than any other vehicle. It's generally an atmospheric condition of days above freezing and nights below freezing, and the culprits are the piles of snow on the side of the road that melt during the day and leave an invisible sheen of ice on the road after dark. I'm curious about your rabid opposition to BRT and buses in general. I'd prefer subways and trams myself, but I'd take a bus, even an articulated one, over a streets full of passenger cars & taxis. I've cycled around many articulated buses in NYC, and they're no worse than any other large vehicle. Speeding delivery trucks and taxis remain the worst hazard that I face. Buses may not be aesthetic, but they're often warm on a rainy - snowy - icy day, and I appreciate their arrival and taking me to a destination. Cheers for the holiday. I’m guessing that living in SF doesn’t give you much experience with snow. Buses don’t make “black ice” any more than any other vehicle. It’s generally an atmospheric condition of days above freezing and nights below freezing, and the culprits are the piles of snow on the side of the road that melt during the day and leave an invisible sheen of ice on the road after dark.

I’m curious about your rabid opposition to BRT and buses in general. I’d prefer subways and trams myself, but I’d take a bus, even an articulated one, over a streets full of passenger cars & taxis. I’ve cycled around many articulated buses in NYC, and they’re no worse than any other large vehicle. Speeding delivery trucks and taxis remain the worst hazard that I face.

Buses may not be aesthetic, but they’re often warm on a rainy - snowy - icy day, and I appreciate their arrival and taking me to a destination.

Cheers for the holiday.

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