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	<title>Comments on: To Save Money, Google Can Do More With Bikes, Land Use</title>
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	<description>Biking in the Bay</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 11:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're probably right about that, Eric.

the frustrating thing for me is, i really don't know how this road engineering stuff could even work. like, even if i was made a semi-god and could do almost anything i wanted with the roadway, there's no real way that i can see how to make cars and bikes mix. since that can't happen - we have to get rid of cars - they're just too dangerous. 

so, for instance, we close off half (maybe slightly less than half) of shoreline/steiner to all motor traffic. we reconfigure the other side to carry traffic in both directions. that's our starting point. any left or right turns allowed by motor traffic would be controlled by a light situation - same for us bikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably right about that, Eric.</p>
<p>the frustrating thing for me is, i really don&#8217;t know how this road engineering stuff could even work. like, even if i was made a semi-god and could do almost anything i wanted with the roadway, there&#8217;s no real way that i can see how to make cars and bikes mix. since that can&#8217;t happen - we have to get rid of cars - they&#8217;re just too dangerous. </p>
<p>so, for instance, we close off half (maybe slightly less than half) of shoreline/steiner to all motor traffic. we reconfigure the other side to carry traffic in both directions. that&#8217;s our starting point. any left or right turns allowed by motor traffic would be controlled by a light situation - same for us bikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Fischer</title>
		<link>http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/12/03/to-save-money-google-can-do-more-with-bikes-land-use/#comment-2493</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Googleplex needs is a way to get across the 101 freeway that is not a deathtrap of cars merging across the bike lanes to get to and from the freeway ramps.  Supposedly someday there will be one at Permanente Creek but I'm not holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Googleplex needs is a way to get across the 101 freeway that is not a deathtrap of cars merging across the bike lanes to get to and from the freeway ramps.  Supposedly someday there will be one at Permanente Creek but I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
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