Comments on: Walking To Become Normal Again http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/11/29/walking-to-become-normal-again/ Biking in the Bay Fri, 18 May 2012 11:34:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Peter Smith http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/11/29/walking-to-become-normal-again/#comment-2455 Peter Smith Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:01:43 +0000 http://bikeblogs.org/sf/?p=532#comment-2455 yeah, mcas, the suburbs will be an interesting case study, that's for sure. i was thinking that it would be kind of a cool job to be trained in this new urbanist-type stuff - retrofitting suburbs to be sustainable, but i'm thinking it would basically suck - people would just hate you for trying to change their way of life. who knows, though - human culture is weird. yeah, mcas, the suburbs will be an interesting case study, that’s for sure.

i was thinking that it would be kind of a cool job to be trained in this new urbanist-type stuff - retrofitting suburbs to be sustainable, but i’m thinking it would basically suck - people would just hate you for trying to change their way of life. who knows, though - human culture is weird.

]]> By: Nick Bastian http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/11/29/walking-to-become-normal-again/#comment-2441 Nick Bastian Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:47:07 +0000 http://bikeblogs.org/sf/?p=532#comment-2441 Traditionally, there has been a "sprawl is best" type of development attitude in Phoenix. Downtown Phoenix has been almost a ghost town at night unless there is a sporting event. Light Rail is helping to change that mind set. We are far from the San Francisco vibrancy but are turning the corner. Light Rail opens on December 27th here and it will be a lot of fun to watch people finally begin to embrace public transportation. btw, the bike racks on the light rail cars look pretty cool. :-) Traditionally, there has been a “sprawl is best” type of development attitude in Phoenix. Downtown Phoenix has been almost a ghost town at night unless there is a sporting event. Light Rail is helping to change that mind set. We are far from the San Francisco vibrancy but are turning the corner. Light Rail opens on December 27th here and it will be a lot of fun to watch people finally begin to embrace public transportation. btw, the bike racks on the light rail cars look pretty cool. :-)

]]> By: mcas http://bikeblogs.org/sf/2008/11/29/walking-to-become-normal-again/#comment-2439 mcas Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:37:28 +0000 http://bikeblogs.org/sf/?p=532#comment-2439 "we should get people to stop thinking that there are going to be ways to take motorized transport from their doorsteps to their destinations. " ...but Peter, what about PRT?!?!?! hahaha- just kidding! As for the concepts of walking/driving in non-urban areas, it's a long road coming. I'm visiting the folks right now and when I told friends where I rode to/from the other day, people couldn't grasp that it was bikeable-- it's the built environments fault, tho- not the individuals. Build it for cars, people only think in car-centric ways... “we should get people to stop thinking that there are going to be ways to take motorized transport from their doorsteps to their destinations. ” …but Peter, what about PRT?!?!?! hahaha- just kidding!

As for the concepts of walking/driving in non-urban areas, it’s a long road coming. I’m visiting the folks right now and when I told friends where I rode to/from the other day, people couldn’t grasp that it was bikeable– it’s the built environments fault, tho- not the individuals. Build it for cars, people only think in car-centric ways…

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